Sad Sales Story of the Day

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 04/06/2016 at 11:24 • Filed to: None

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Just a casual reminder than in March alone this

Outsold this

or this

For ALL of 2015.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

Source goodcarbadcar.net

LongbowMkII > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:27

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I honestly want to see how cheap I can get a compass.

Justin Hughes > LongbowMkII 04/06/2016 at 11:28

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...why?

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > LongbowMkII 04/06/2016 at 11:29

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I want a used one in a few years for epicly cheap rallyX fun

BigBlock440 > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:30

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People want a cheap car that does useful things, who woulda thought? That it stars $5k below both of those and has an actual back seat certainly helps.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > LongbowMkII 04/06/2016 at 11:30

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Buddy just sold his for 5k. It was a 2010 I believe.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:31

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As much as I love the Toyobaru and the Miata, it’s not what the general public wants.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:32

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Yep... Le sigh.

LongbowMkII > Justin Hughes 04/06/2016 at 11:32

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Shits and gigs.

If you can get one for 14k it'd make some sense.

HammerheadFistpunch > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 04/06/2016 at 11:34

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no argument there, just thinking about this as it related to the question on the FP about car makers making cars for people who don’t care, not people who do. This is exactly why we don’t get more enthusiast cars.

HammerheadFistpunch > BigBlock440 04/06/2016 at 11:35

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Aye, and who can blame them...but it certainly tells the tale of how the auto industry is geared to run...and how many people out there who STILL haven’t heard how crummy FCA cars can be.

Justin Hughes > LongbowMkII 04/06/2016 at 11:36

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Fair enough. I drove one for a month while my BRZ was getting fixed. The only place that car was any good was on a rally stage .

HammerheadFistpunch > LongbowMkII 04/06/2016 at 11:37

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No I get it, it would be fun to see just how low you could go. at the right price, it wouldn’t make a terrible commuter only car.

The Ghost of Oppo > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:38

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I have a feeling dealerships are just giving Compasses away. People are probably coming in to look at Renegades and get down sold on one.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:40

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The bottom line is that they’re companies. They need to turn a profit. Sports cars don’t sell enough to merit producing. Crossovers (ugh), unfortunately, do sell enough to merit producing.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:40

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I know people looking at these for bush/fishing vehicles, cheaper than a YJ in most cases.

HammerheadFistpunch > The Ghost of Oppo 04/06/2016 at 11:41

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why get a renegade when you could have this car for 5/8th the price? I get it. I gotta wonder what the profit margin in on those things.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:42

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At least is comes with a manual?

#GraspingAtStrawsHere

HammerheadFistpunch > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif 04/06/2016 at 11:42

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gets you to the same fishing hole too...and you worry less about it in the end.

TheRealBicycleBuck > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:43

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I’m sure it has a lot to do with demographics. People who would buy the sports cars either have families to haul around, can’t afford a new vehicle, or are at the other end of the spectrum and have the funds to buy something a bit more exciting. When I no longer have family hauling duties, I’ll probably buy something a bit more impractical.

BigBlock440 > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:43

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can be, not are. The vast majority of them won’t have any problems until long after they trade up, and this particular model has been around since 2007 (since most of Chrysler’s lineup) so any gremlins should have been found and fixed.

The Ghost of Oppo > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:44

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Yeah exactly. The Compass hasn’t been updated since like 2009, so maybe the margins are still okay, but they probably just want to get them off the lots at this point.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:44

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Ya, I acutally kind of like the look of them in the green they came in with more aggressive tires.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif 04/06/2016 at 11:45

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damn

in a few more years I see one of these selling for 2k and rallying the shit out of it. Should be able to fit some meaty tires and have amazing ground clearance for FWD class

BigBlock440 > LongbowMkII 04/06/2016 at 11:46

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Starting MSRP is $19k, could probably work it down another grand or two since it’ll be the base and nobody’ll want it.

yamahog > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:46

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And to think we let these people vote.

/s

HammerheadFistpunch > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif 04/06/2016 at 11:48

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They actually look great...from directly at the front. If they had a full GC greenhouse instead of just the front end treatment...they would actually look pretty decent.

LongbowMkII > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:48

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I imagine the tooling costs have been paid for years.

and 100 more > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:48

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The number of people who can afford a car solely for fun is far outsripped by the number of people who buy a car based on needs.

Fuck the everyman, right?

Compass (and it’s platform-mate, the Patriot) are cheap as dirt. They’re also very useful. I can pack up a sad, uninteresting apartment’s-worth of stuff into one of the Jeep ToasterTwins, and move said shit to another sad, uninteresting apartment. I can take all three of my wife’s annoying Labradoodles to the dog show in Decatur next weekend and get unremarkable but decent gas mileage doing so. I once hit a patch of ice and didn’t spin out entirely - thanks to Jeep’s FreedomDrive I.

Welcome to reality, where Miatas and S2Ks and Vettes and all of their sporty ilk are relegated to the “Hopes and Aspirations” page of your self-help book.

nermal > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:48

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It’s cheap, has 4 wheel drive, and is practical. Good basic transportation.

HammerheadFistpunch > LongbowMkII 04/06/2016 at 11:49

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Yup.

HammerheadFistpunch > and 100 more 04/06/2016 at 11:50

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I honestly don’t knock people for buying them, just making a point on the state of the auto industry as a whole.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:52

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Makes sense to me. It’s cheaper, more useful, and doesn’t have a front end that looks like Chucky (the miata).

HammerheadFistpunch > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 04/06/2016 at 11:55

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The front end of the face-lifted compass is, actually, quite nice.

and 100 more > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 11:59

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It’s not the state of the industry, tho - it’s the state of the market.

Fact is, the Patriot/Compass is being built and sold WAAAAAAY beyond it’s intended production run. It’s been on FCA’s chopping block for at least three years now, saved by the fact that sales of the Patriot have only increased year-over-year since it’s inception in 2007, except for 2015 where it saw it’s first decline. People may not want them, but they are selling incredibly well.

Now, if you wanna talk about the lack of innovation specifically beacuse an old platform has been preserved beyond it’s natural death date, then you’re absolutely right. That’s an industry problem, because the Patriot/Compass seriously have not changed (save for the 6-spd auto in 2014) since they were first produced. And THAT is sad.

HammerheadFistpunch > and 100 more 04/06/2016 at 12:02

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See I remember hearing in 2014 from a Jeep engineer that the Compatriots weren’t on the chopping block and that the renegade was never meant to replace them since its a B segment and the Compatriots are C segment. That being said...they probably are going to kill them off eventually.

Somethin' 'bout a truck > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 12:03

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I agree. For what these are, and the price, they really are not to bad.

and 100 more > BigBlock440 04/06/2016 at 12:04

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Not really, unforunately. If anything, the QA on the newest ones seems to be worse than ever. They’re pretty solid overall, but more are coming into problems earlier in their lives than in previous years. Mostly related to the electronic throttle and other electrical components.

Mercedes Streeter > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 12:05

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Looks like they grafted a current gen, pre-facelift GC front end on it...I’m okay with that.

Somethin' 'bout a truck > and 100 more 04/06/2016 at 12:06

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Yeah, I thought that the Patriot was the most reliable new Jeep on sale today. That would mean the Compass can’t be far behind.

HammerheadFistpunch > Somethin' 'bout a truck 04/06/2016 at 12:06

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well...i mean they ARE...but its a kind of bad that you can live with. Like a DVD player you buy at a grocery store that just keeps working year after year...in spite of the frustrating menus and buttons.

BigBlock440 > and 100 more 04/06/2016 at 12:07

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Oh...

HammerheadFistpunch > Mercedes Streeter 04/06/2016 at 12:07

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exactly what happened. Frankly, if they found a way to fix the rest of the exterior to look like a baby GC, and did likewise with the interior (the dash is new and curvy and nice but the rest of the interior is that horrid hard and sharp stuff) then this would be a legit okay looking thing.

Takuro Spirit > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 12:09

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Some of us need back seats. Back seats for people with legs. Looking at you, Toyobaru.

HammerheadFistpunch > Takuro Spirit 04/06/2016 at 12:11

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Screw you and your unreasonable requests for...what was it? Leg space? HA!

Mercedes Streeter > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 12:13

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You mean like, what the normal Cherokee should have been? I’ve always felt like the new Cherokee would have been better fitted with the Liberty nameplate.

and 100 more > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 12:20

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That confirms what I’ve heard as well. The MKs were never meant to be replaced one-for-one by either the Renegade or the new Cherokee. Supposedly, there’s a new C-segment vehicle in the works that slots between the Cherokee and Renegade, and is basically an extended Renegade platform.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > and 100 more 04/06/2016 at 12:21

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I’m sure the 6spd auto takes this car from a terrible car to a run of the mill normal car. If I remember correctly the CVT in those especially the early ones were about as bad as they can get.

With a 6spd auto I can’t knock anyone buying one of these for cheap useful transportation.

and 100 more > BigBlock440 04/06/2016 at 12:23

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Yeah. Plus, most of them still have front ball joints that wear out by 40k miles. But it’s not consistent. None of the problems are consistent. I have a 2008 that went about 100k before the ball joints began to fail. Other than a clutch replacement and rear bearings, I haven’t had any major mechanical issues.

and 100 more > Somethin' 'bout a truck 04/06/2016 at 12:25

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Mechanically and electrically, they are identical. The only major structural differences are the slope over the hatch area and the front clip.

and 100 more > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 04/06/2016 at 12:28

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I don’t have any experience with the CVT or the 6-spd personally, but most people tend to agree that the 6-spd seems to be a better match for everyday use.

It’s funny; it used to be that you could only get the manual or the CVT, and now you can get the manual or 6-spd, but to get the better offroad package you HAVE to get the CVT.

and 100 more > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 12:30

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I could not think of a better description for this car. Absolutely spot on.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > HammerheadFistpunch 04/06/2016 at 12:31

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Starting price in Canada of $15,745 . I can see why they sell well.

That’s $304 bucks cheaper than a BASE model Ford Fiesta.

For strictly carting kids and stuff around this is WAY better suited than the MUCH smaller Fiesta.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > and 100 more 04/06/2016 at 12:39

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I JUST saw that and I was like “WTF am I seeing this right? what’s with all the mix mash of tranny choices?”

and 100 more > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 04/06/2016 at 12:52

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PRE 2014:

2wd - 5spd manual or CVT

FDI 4wd - 5spd manual or CVT w/ PTO rear drive

FDII 4wd - CVT with special low-gear programming, hill decent, etc.

POST 2014:

2wd - 5spd manual or 6spd auto

FDI 4wd - 5spd manual or 6spd auto w/ PTO rear drive

FDII 4wd - same old CVT with special low-gear programming, hill decent, etc.

Basically, after 2014 they sourced the 6spd auto from Hyundai for their volume sales, but didn’t want to mess with programming it for their high-end offorad package, so kept the old setup.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Takuro Spirit 04/06/2016 at 18:02

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I’m 6' and fat and sat in the back of the Toyobaru with a car seat beside me. It’s no worse than a Mustang or Camaro. Checkmate Miata